Ledouche said: How do you know god isn’t an infinite deceiver?

Jimmy said: I don’t consider infinite deceivers a possibility. Given the Christian worldview, the existence of the Christian God and His revelation rule out the possibility that there is such a deceiver floating about. God Himself is the original archetype of truth: his perfect self-coherence, self-reflection, and self-containment (by which I mean that all universals about God exhaust the particulars, and all particulars exemplify universals). And God determines the truths of the cosmos; His word is law, so to speak. This Yahweh reveals to men through their internal sensus dei, through the created order, and in His spoken revelation of the Bible. Note: God makes this known to humankind; it is not contingent upon the interpretive enterprise. So, on my worldview, infinite deceivers aren’t an issue.
You, however, said you only presuppose logic and your ability to reason, not metaphysical truths. The problem is that logic and reason are not compatible with a metaphysical dearth. Your metaphysics (of nothing) removes the intelligibility of your avowed presuppositions, logic, and reason.
In other words, you cannot know so-called laws of logic and you cannot reason if you cannot distinguish your thoughts and statements here from the insane ramblings of someone subject to an infinite deceiver. I don’t have to worry about that because my worldview precludes the possibility. Yours does not.

Mr.Londondude said: well that isn’t exactly true, your worldview acknowledges the possibility of not being elect, which would mean soteriological knowledge may never come your way, no matter how convinced you are of the contrary.

Jimmy responded: Sure, Ledouche could be subject to a finite deceiver, like the kinds described in Scripture. I believe in divine assurance concerning salvation, though. Meanwhile, I don’t think the deceiving spirits described in the Bible run around deceiving nilly willy. They are described as being identifiable, even if not by those deceived, and the recipient of the deception is always fooled as a result of desiring sin, meaning the deception can always be avoided if the person stops falling into sin.