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Paradoxical Unitarianism

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This is continuing from a prior discussion I had with a ContraModalism: http://spirited-tech.com/COG/2018/12/03/contramodalisms-dilemma/ He has added some new responses to this dilemma but his response is unexpected: Created, as in caused by the Father, before time existed, yes. Yeah. I see this as a change in terminology, mainly. The word ‘create’ is simply a synonym for ’cause’, and as you are familiar with, I have long held that the Son is caused by the Father. I would not say He is created from nothing. I think the Son’s generation from the Father is a mystery. This seems to me to be an … Continue reading Paradoxical Unitarianism

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ContraModalism’s Dilemma

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I had another exchange with ContraModalism. Here is the conversation: ContraModalism: that the Son was uniquely caused by the Father, from the Father (not from nothing), prior to the creation of the material universe, and with it, time. The Son pre-exists time, so there can be no difference in time between the Father and Son. eternally begotten or created in my understanding simply refers to that atemporal origin before time existed. and I think the fact that the first father we have on record as using the term trinity, freely spoke of the Son as a creature, is a point … Continue reading ContraModalism’s Dilemma

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Meals on Wheels

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—Romans 11:36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen. I am going to continue my series on presuppositionalism: http://spirited-tech.com/COG/2018/02/27/a-little-presup-before-dinner/ http://spirited-tech.com/COG/2018/04/03/presup-before-dessert/ 1. Presuppositions A discussion of presuppositionalism will or should turn to what we mean by presupposition. To the surprise of no one, the idea of presuppositions is also debated. Different thoughts about that can be seen here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presupposition/ From my understanding most Van Tilians think that TAG should be argued as Collett has by implementing Strawsonian semantics theory of presuppositions then we have understood what Van Til was trying … Continue reading Meals on Wheels

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Irenaeus and Papal Succession

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2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which … Continue reading Irenaeus and Papal Succession

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Trinity in Unity

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Alex: I don’t see why you need a Trinity in Unity within the Godhead in order to account for unity and diversity. A muslim could argue from the unity of Allah’s diverse attributes that they can account for unity and diversity. Necessitarian: 1.) Unitarian Gods lack personal diversity, and so unitarian Gods must resort to explaining the one-and-many relation in impersonal terms. This is to say that, at bottom, unitarianism answers metaphysics the same way Hinduism, Taoism, and monist naturalism do: the one-and-many derive from impersonal facts. Unitarianism reduces to impersonalism. 2.) Concurrently, unitarian Gods cannot even maintain traditional attributes. … Continue reading Trinity in Unity